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November 16, 1997
NETANYAHU: I want to thank the LA World Affairs Council
and the people here on the dais and here in the audience.
We are, as I said, in California. And many of you who’ve visited
Israel have remarked on the similarity of the scenery and of the
climate. Now, that, that actually may be a myopic view, because
there’s one small difference between California and Israel — the
neighborhood. It’s a different neighborhood. Now, I know you
have some tough neighborhoods here, but ours are tougher. And
you have a reminder, these days, of exactly what kind of
neighborhood we live in, and what kind of neighbors — some of
them, at least — adjoin us. We, we know that to secure peace in
this kind of area requires the ability, first, to deter war.
Now, what I’ve just said ought to be absolutely obvious. Because
it’s, after all, the central lesson of this century. The central lesson
of this century is that if you live in a different neighborhood than
the one we’re talking about, a nice neighborhood, you don’t have
to do anything to keep the peace — peace is kept by itself.
In North America, you have disputes, I understand, between
America — the United States and Canada and America — and the
United States and Mexico. And I understand that — well, I
understand that you have some problems with your southern
neighbor, and I gather that you’re not happy with a few things that
pass the border — illegal drugs and things like that. But I
understand that the reason you don’t go to war against Mexico is
because you’re afraid of Mexico’s military might. No, of course
not.
The reason you don’t go to war to Mexico, and the reason that
Canada doesn’t go to war against you — because they have some
complaints against you — pollution, and so on. By the way, much
greater wars have been sparked by lesser causes. The reason no
one contemplates it is not a balance of power, it’s not a balance of
deterrence, it’s not military prevention. It is that you are
democracies.
And democracies — at least in the post-Colonial period, which is
almost a century now — don’t go to wars. They don’t initiate them.
They might respond if attacked. And sometimes, you have to
attack them in Pearl Harbor — you know, really poke them in the
eye. After all of Europe is conquered. To get them to go to war.
Democracies respond to attacks — they generally don’t initiate
them. Not true of dictatorships.
For example, Saddam Hussein. You remember him. He didn’t
exactly take a poll in Baghdad before he decided to devour
Kuwait. And when Kuwait was extricated from Iraq’s gullet, and
he was defeated, he then sued for peace. And then he waited for
the next opportunity — now. And he’s trying again. Whatever he’s
trying.
Now, we support fully the position taken by President Clinton
and the United States and the international community — much of
it — to face Saddam down, because he is in fact engaging in the
attempt to build the weapons of aggression, contrary to his solemn
obligations.
But the main point that I want to make to you today is that in
order to secure the peace in an area where there are no
democracies, where peace is not inherent, where there’s no check
of public opinion, or of the voting booth against an aggressive
regime or an adventurous regime, there is only one check, and
that is an external check. Peace through deterrence. Or, if I can
borrow a phrase from somebody who used to be a governor of
California — peace through strength. That is the central lesson of
the 20th century. In the first half of this century, the democracies
forgot this lesson, and all of humanity, and especially the Jewish
people, paid the worst of prices for it. In the second half of this
century, opposite a greater dictatorship than Nazi Germany, they
remembered this lesson, and created peace in Europe. Through the
deterrence of NATO, we received half a century of global peace.
And now that the Soviet Union is gone and Central Europe is
democratizing and indeed, Eastern Europe is democratizing, there’s
a different kind of peace. You’re not exactly afraid that the
former Warsaw Pact countries will invade Western Europe. It’s
becoming the peace of democracies.
The main point that we face, or the main problem that we face in
achieving peace in the Middle East is that we are not ringed with
democracies. We are the only democracy. And therefore, the basis
of any peace that we can make with our neighbors — and they are
not all uniform; some of them have gone further to pluralism and
moderation than others. But when we think of the principles that
guide us in peace-making, the central point that must be
understood is that, precisely as Governor Wilson said, it is not
enough to want peace. That peace must be buttressed on the ability
to secure the peace and prevent its violation. That is, that peace
must built, built on a solid foundation of security.
For example, our peace with Egypt. That peace has had its ups and
downs in normalization for the last 20 years. I remember the late
Yitzrach Rabin, whose tragic assassination we commemorated in
Israel a week ago. I remember him, and I remember Shimon Peres
complaining bitterly to me, when I was opposition leader, about
the vagaries of Egyptian normalization. All sorts of complaints.
But what has held fast and strong in the last two decades since
the signing of the Camp David Accords are the security
arrangements that we built into the peace, in the form of a vast
demilitarized Sinai Desert, early warning, other forms of
deterrence, other forms of ensuring Israel’s security against any
potential violation of the peace. That has held durable, it has not
changed one bit in two decades.
This is the kind of principle that we have to build in to our future
peace agreements, whether it be with Syria or with Lebanon or
with the Palestinians. This is in fact the main promise of the Oslo
Accords. When Yitzrach Rabin presented the Oslo Accords to the
Israeli people, he said, in his characteristically blunt way, he said,
“It’s a very simple deal. We give them territory; they give us a
pledge to fight the terrorists from within that territory.”
That deal has not been kept. It wasn’t kept in the first
two-and-a-half years of Oslo, when after the deal that, or the
agreement that was supposed to enter, we experienced terror on
the scale of which we have never seen before in Israel. We had
the equivalent of 10,000 Americans — in Israeli terms — dying in
our streets, in our cities, in bus explosions, and so on. And the
people of Israel said, wait a minute. Where is the deal? Where’s
the deal? Because surely, if we’re going to have peace, it must be
based on security.
And surely, when we had peace with Egypt, we had terror from
Egypt, many years ago. We had felahin bases. But those bases were
wiped out well before we signed the peace. We had felahin
terrorist bases in Jordan — those were wiped out before we had the
peace. We have terror bases now in Lebanon — hisballah bases. But
surely everybody understands that if we have peace with Lebanon,
those bases will be wiped out. Because it’s inconceivable to have
peace with Lebanon and terror attacks from Lebanon.
Inconceivable.
There may be a solitary terror attack here and there. There was a
terrible tragedy in Egypt yesterday — a terrorist attack. That can
happen. And I phoned President Mubharak today to express our
condolences to the Egyptian people, to the Egyptian government.
But there are no terror bases inside Egypt operating against Israel.
That is a thing of the past. It is not possible to coexist with peace
— it is not consonant with peace. This is the central demand that
we put before the Palestinian authority.
It wasn’t easy for me, before the elections, to say, yes, we will
accept the Oslo Accords. But we did it. But we said, we will
follow the Oslo Accords, providing you follow it.
Which means, in the first instance, fight terrorism. Capture the
leaders. Put them in jail. Capture the operatives. Put them in jail.
Confiscate the firearms — they’re all illegal. Extradite the
murderers — there are 36 that are pending under the agreement to
be extradited to Israel. Stop the incitement for violence in the
Palestinian-controlled media.
Oh, by the way, the Palestinian-controlled media is controlled. The
Israeli media is not exactly under my control. Sometimes I hear
that this is not true, because the Palestinian media is a free media,
and it reminds me of a play I saw by, I think by Tom Stoppard,
in which a Third World ruler struts on the stage and he says,
“We have a relatively free press in my country.” And somebody
asks him, “What’s that?” And he says, “It’s a press run freely by
my relatives.”
NETANYAHU: Well, they have a relatively free press in the
Palestinian authority, and it incites for violence and terror, or
sometimes even worse. All of that was promised, solemnly
pledged, by the Palestinian authority. We gave territory —
NETANYAHU: I’m trying to understand the nuance of that
statement.
NETANYAHU: Now, all of that was pledged and not kept.
Terrorists are being released in what is called a “revolving
door.” They come in, sit for two days, out the door. Including,
for example, the mastermind of the Visingoff bombing, the Tel
Aviv bombings that you remember from two years ago, that
claimed the lives of dozens of innocent people in Israel. The
incitement continues, the firearms haven’t been collected, the, the
institutions, the infrastructure — those organizations that give
money and support and logistics to the Hamas and Islamic Jihad
terrorist organizations continue to work unabated. And this is
what we have demanded to be corrected. And it’s not easy to do.
Because if you’re nice and you don’t demand, people will be nice
to you. They’ll pat you on the back. If you give, rather than
demand to receive, everybody will love you. Try it. Go to the
closest street intersection, take out a dollar bill and start handing
out one after the other. People will love you. They’ll pat you on
the back. The minute you stop giving, they won’t like you, and
they’ll say, “Give more.” We stopped giving. We said, we will
give only when we receive. We will advance only when you
advance. And we insist on the foundation of peace, which is
security. And this obviously…
NETANYAHU: This obviously is tougher than to continue
unilateral concessions that are not reciprocated.
Now, here is a paradox built into what I’ve said, and I’m sure
those of you have already discerned it. It’s called “The Oslo
Paradox.” Israel, which keeps the Oslo Accords, is accused of
violating it. And the Palestinian authority, which violates the Oslo
Accords, is credited with keeping it. I described to you their
violations — I didn’t describe to you how we kept it.
We did the Hebron Accords. The previous government couldn’t do
it, and wouldn’t do it, or couldn’t and wouldn’t re-deploy in
Hebron, but we did, and handed over 80% of that ancient city to
the Palestinian authority. We released women prisoners — terrorist
prisoners with blood on their hands — because this was part of the
post-Hebron Accords. I didn’t like it. I didn’t sign that agreement,
but I honored it. We have lifted the closure on Palestinian cities,
we allowed a record number — 160,000 Palestinian workers — to
work in our cities, up from 25,000 that we received. We fulfilled
our part of the deal.
So the question you have to ask yourself is, how is it possible that
Israel, that keeps the accords, is accused of violating it? And
vice-versa, vis-à-vis the Palestinians.
And the answer immediately comes to mind — well, of course — it’s
settlements. You build settlements. Settlements being the towns
and villages that are adjacent to Israel’s major cities, many of them
bedroom communities. And the answer is yes, we do. But it so
happens that that is within the accords.
The late Yitzrach Rabin, again, stood before the Knesset and said
— very proudly, I may say — “We’ll build. We can build new
settlements, and we can continue to build in the existing
communities.”
Now, we haven’t built new settlements. But people get married
and they have children. People move — in, out. We don’t bus
anyone — there’s no public housing of any kind that we do.
Private contractors build. If there is demand, people go there. Just
as they live and build in Kilkilya, in Bethlehem, in Tulcarum — in
any of the Palestinian cities. People live. Communities are living
organisms.
Suppose you told a community here, a neighborhood here, no more
houses. No more refurbishing, no more new houses built anywhere.
You will choke a community immediately.
And Oslo stipulated very clearly that Israel has the right to
continue, and under no circumstances did it abridge that right.
And I’m talking about the Labor Government, before us.
So Israel now is asked to undertake limitations outside the
agreement in order to secure Palestinian fulfillment of provisions
inside the agreement. You follow me so far? Fine. And the
question is, why is that? And people say, “Well, it may not be in
the agreement, but you are preempting a final settlement, because
you’re gobbling up the land.”
A question for you. How much land do all the settlements
constitute out of the West Bank? All together. Percentage.
Somebody heard my speech before. Oh, not fair. Attentive souls
here. Well, the clue is that all the Palestinian cities together,
absent Hebron, account for 2.8% of the total territory of the West
Bank. The settlements probably account for 1%, 1 ½%. I haven’t
measured exactly, but something on that order. The incremental
housing is one-tenth of 1%, two-tenths of 1%. The incremental
housing was greatest under the Labor Government that increased
the population of the territories by 50%. Here is one of the
incrementals. Mayor Ron Nachman of Ariel, stand up, please.
SPEAKER: that breached the peace.
NETANYAHU: I’ll talk about that in a minute — thank you.
Now, the important thing is, the important thing is that this issue,
by itself, is not an issue. It’s certainly not in the contracts, and it’s
certainly not that significant a factor on the ground. And if it is,
it should be a factor of symmetry on both sides.
Now, the reason this is not mentioned is, of course, because many
people think you shouldn’t be here in the first place. You may be
right. You may be right that you keep the agreement. You may be
right in demanding security. You may be right that the settlements
don’t amount to much. But you shouldn’t be there in the first
place, and therefore, you’re in the wrong. So there is this
distinction between what I call “the lower truth” and “the
higher truth.” The lower truth is the day-to-day facts. But the
higher truth is, justice is not on your side, so therefore, don’t
bother us with the facts.
We are supposed to be, I suppose, in a strange land, much like
Algeria was colonized by the French, or the Americans were in
faraway Vietnam, or the British in India. Can you imagine? That’s
what they say about Judea. The word “Jew” comes from Judea.
Our ancestors came from Judea. My great-grandfather came back
to this land a hundred years ago — there was no one there. Now,
that could be Zionist propaganda, so we have to turn to another
Zionist propaganda called Mark Twain. He was there, 20 years
before my grandfather — great-grandfather — came there. He said,
“Nothing is here.” He said, “When will the Jews return so this
land will come back alive?”
Well, Arthur Penrun Stanley, the greatest British cartographer of
the 19th century, he was there. On the day that Yasir Arafat, on
the year that Yasir Arafat says the Zionist invasion began, in 1881,
into the verdant Palestinian homeland. And Arthur Penrun Stanley
says — and other Zionist propagandists know that — “Not a soul in
Judea.” Note the word, Judea. Not a soul. Miles and miles and
miles — not a soul. It’s the Zionist restoration that restored this
land. It’s the Zionist restoration that produced Jewish immigration
and a great deal of Arab immigration, all of whom are welcome in
this land.
But I’m not gonna get into a detailed polemic, or a detailed study
of the perversion of history that has taken place by the
oft-repeated falsehoods about Israel, and our right to live in Judea,
in the hills around Jerusalem. That I won’t do now. I will
charitably say it’s an issue in dispute. That dispute has not been
decided. And if it’s not been decided, how can anyone ask us,
against the facts of history, and I tell you, against the facts of
international law, against the British mandate, against the League
of Nations, against even the United Nations’ own resolutions up to
1947, it’s so. How can anyone ask us to pre-judge this? Well, they
shouldn’t.
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